What Nigel (melbourne imc) said... : Melbourne Indymedia

also censored here - a melb proposal
by m i c k Wednesday January 17, 2007 at 04:01 PM

"Any collective wishing to call itself Darwin Indy media would therefore require, as part of it's constitution, to exclude this individual (mick lambe) and would automatically forfeit it's place as an IMC if he were ever to become a member." [1] - proposal by Andrew Lowenthal

another rich kiddie who flies to New York for indy wankfests

nigel - http:// pariahnt.org/Oz-indymedia/pages/Melbourne-indymedia-hypocrisy_and_bias.htm

context of open letter

http://www.country-liberal-party.com/pages/incarc_p2.htm

Please Stop this nonsense!
by Enough Wednesday January 17, 2007 at 04:13 PM

Enough is enough mate. Stop abusing indymedia users with your pathetic selfish rantings. What I just cannot grasp is the idea that you want to be part of a network that you hate! Thats an insane in the membrane kinda argument.

You used to make interesting media. Now you are burying yourself under a hurtful mountain of your own making. You are hurting yourself. Please get some help.

Its a crying shame. Have a nice cup of tea and a lie down mate. For your sake as much as the readers and contributors here please give it up.

Suggestion - Turn off your computer for a few days and stop wasting everybody's time.

Ed - We used to receive hundreds of HATE posts a day on darwin - mostly from fellow indymedia members in Oz - we have since learned - perth who hosted us were less than helpful

I continue to make "interesting media" - sociologically the continued use of indymedia to disseminate HATE and misinformation that KKK and other HATE sites would shy away from - (PARIAH have taken down 2 such sites) is of great interest

A joyful karmic resonance - assures continuance of this anti-racism campaign

appealing to brain damaged speed freaks is a waste of time. A few of the lads are discussing whether or not to have a beer or two at the Seabreeze.

Types like this require stopping .. don't waste your time he's got a death wish, as is obvious .. everyone knows who he is .. he begs everyone to put him out of his misery .. one day some psycho similiar to himself will oblige him

Non Territorians are unaware that the NT is the murder capital of Oz ... a few tourists make the headlines but what doesn't would blow your tiny minds .. been going on for years ..

Too easy

Ed - This death threat, spur to violence ("Types like this require stopping ..." ) and ugly baseless, character assassination is indicative of how indymedia is used as a vehicle to attack dissenters and activists generally - I do not - nor have I ever - used IV drugs despite living in 3 drug houses up here - I saw nothing that tempted me to use - I seem immune to peer pressure

Wouldn't wish any pain or suffering on anyone. And I'm not suggesting any drug problems up there. At least I hope its not that.

Its just a real shame he keeps ranting, as if anyone really cares, let alone even understand the complexity of this situation.

But from having to put up with this shit on the newswire, by all accounts it seems he's so deluded one can't see the logic of it all.

I mean why does he plead to be part of the indymedia network if he hates, slanders, defames and abuses all the people in it.

And I say "he" - because its only the one guy ravin on. Not like theres even a collective coming to his defence.

Just wish he would shutup and do something positive, constructive and worthwhile.

Amazing!

How can they justify deleting their own peoples comments? EASY!
by Indywatch Wednesday January 17, 2007 at 05:29 PM

Massive respect to the Melbourne IMC eds!

Why delete your slanderous rubbish? Get a grip fellah!

Er, perhaps because you publish so much shit. Thankfully, Indymedia sites have an editorial policy. One simple goal of this policy is to "preserve the quality of the website as a useful media resource."

Now what is useful about your crank?

Here's a few more reasons to remove your poo:

Posts which are obviously incorrect or misleading. This includes attempts to spread disinformation or to impersonate another individual.

Posts that are deemed to be devoid of content or analysis and appear to be published with the sole purpose of disruption.

Abuse of others in the form of personal attacks. Indymedia is not a space for people to play out personal vendettas

Persistent nuisance posts to the newswire or comments sections

Your shit violates it buddy. End of story

http://melbourne.indymedia.org/process/edpol.php

Ed - The irony inherent in this declaration would not be lost to the astute - Yes - race/hate campaigns, personal attacks of the lowest sort, death threats, hundreds of hate posts a day on OUR darwin indymedia and of course the invasions and threats at our homes encouraged by this network - are standards I can only aspire to

White Australians have real problems with denial - as their inability to address facts and realise how empty and absurdly biased their comments appear to others - demonstrates clearly

he just wants to see indymedia go down

by what? Wednesday January 17, 2007 at 05:31 PM

here's a fella that's attacking the tail end of a dragon, ignoring the head.

He won't stop till indymedia goes down, and will contribute all he can to do that.

he just wants the corporates in domination, and everyone using blogger and myspace.

Ed: My activist history and participation in indymedia since 1999 - would not suggest such motives,

This is not indymedia - this is a politicised space on the WWW run by the self-styled "indymedia-powers-that-be" which hosts lies and false accusations 24/7 against innocent people who refuse to be intimidated and censored by some illegitimate autocratic clique

They had only to return our domain when they learned our collective were telling the truth - if they wished to avoid more damage

Well, it'd be a bit more credible if he could actually write a legible article. Or if he calmed down and made a little bit of sense.

If we as readers could actually understand what he is trying to say perhaps more would grasp what his problem is. As it stands the noise and illegibility is too much to even bother more than an angry glane to every attempt.

spam spam spam
by Author (Required) Wednesday January 17, 2007 at 08:50 PM

100% support for indy media ed's

Thanks for all you work, you provide a great service.

Its a shame you have to deal with this SPAM, hopefully it will passor a technical solution can be found. (Ed: My italics)

peace

Discussing the private lives of indy activists... That's a pretty bad precedent for anyone set.

pri·va·cy (prī'və-sē) pronunciation
n.

1.
a. The quality or condition of being secluded from the presence or view of others.

b. The state of being free from unsanctioned intrusion: a person's right to privacy.

Ed: One set by this network and used repeatedly for over 6 years - that includes threats and abuse at our homes

I see you are still unable to address facts
by denial is a sickness (mick lambe) Wednesday January 17, 2007 at 09:35 PM

Why has d a r w i n NO domain?

Why do you people believe you can abuse our human rights with impunity?

Why didn't you address the material provided?

I have been very patient - (years of HATE and misinformation) - that is over

working class people, Aboriginal people and "filthy ferrals" (sic) - demand space on indymedia

I am a cyber activist - I know how the www works...

...what you have been doing to my people and our work for years - what I am now doing to you - and what I am going to do next

We have sent no-one to your homes to threaten and assault you - nor have we run HATE/RACE campaigns on indymedia with images of your dead and battered friends as you chose to do

If that did not work to silence me - what chance have these fact-evasive personal attacks?

They look real lame to intelligent observers

you rich kids do not dictate to me and our people

indymedia is not yours to control - a fact of which you seem unaware

address the facts - which are in plain English - despite your insulting (and obfuscatory) claims to the contrary

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NB - "The hate campaigns on Sydney and Melbourne indymedias intensified while we were doing a 3 day shoot for the ABC's Messagestick (Indigenous TV) - getting articles into the 3 main National newspapers - and hosting meetings with most activist groups in Darwin at One Mile Dam Aboriginal community

We achieved connections of power to houses (one 8 months without) - prevented women being bashed, etc... and generally made OMD an issue nationally - while attending court to support Letty Scott - the widow of an Aboriginal man murdered in Berrimah prison (NT)"

http://www.pariahnt.org/Oz-indymedia/pages/trashing.htm

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Do you have consent to publish this woman's photograph?

Of course you don't.

Typical Half/man (Ed: "halfman" means "subhuman") exploiting women and Aboriginals

Ed: This sick individual's longterm hate and lies - are now wielded in defence of melbourne indymedia - a change occasioned by their hostile shift against me - their association with such an longterm and obvious hater of my anti-racism work is damning

Court of Public Opinion - not
by kangaroo court Wednesday January 17, 2007 at 10:47 PM

Why hasn't MIMC answered the list of serious allegations levelled from Darwin. The complainant from Darwin has made both themselves and their grievance fairly public.

MIM has not answered in the same way. MIM, it seems, has preferred to hide behind a stone wall, or the editors' delete/hide button, or numerous hostile pseudonymed spam-like postings of persons most probably editors from MIM.

Many questions arise from this observed behaviour, one of which is (too obvious of course - sorry): What do they have to hide?

MIM, it seems, are in a privileged position of only being voluntarily accountable here. This makes it all the more important that complaints publicly made here pertaining to IMCs are respectfully attended to here, publicly. If they are not, then what difference is there to the spinning power trip of corporate media such as Channel Nine etc?

Big brother may be, but the public is always watching

Ed: Thanks mate - these people suffer from terminal arrogance and denial - and have no place in indymedia according to its purported aims

In their own words

A biased heirarchy in an autonomous org?

Cameron Greggs (sydney indymedia) to DIMC (darwin imc) "You have to co-operate with the indymedia powers-that-be if you want to be part of it.

Mick darwin indymedia - "We do not recognise any "powers-that-be" - that is heirarchical and not what indymedia is about. If that is the reality and innocent people must suffer it - there needs to be some change."

It may not be the way you like doing things, but if you really
really really want the domain back, maybe you would consider this
option.

There are many others that would block a new-imc application if you are
involved.

One of the most vocal, as you are aware, is and_ from melbourne IMC. From my conversations with him, he will be allot harder to win over than Stacy is.

I would recommend you approach and_ (andrew lowenthal) and tell him you want to put things in the past and start again. Be nice about it, be humble."
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This is how these born-to-rule autocrats address 'inferiors' - "...be humble?"

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation

Mick - darwin indymedia - "We do not recognise any "powers-that-be" - that is hierarchical and not what indymedia is about. If that is the reality and innocent people must suffer it - there needs to be some change."